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Lishy · Sep 01, 2008, 11:57 PM // 23:57

I'm almost at the goal I set for my Paragon. Once I reach that goal, I decided to move onto another character. The question is which? I have both a Mesmer and Assassin that are set up for PvE. But I cannot decide who to main.
Assassin has the versatility in weapons, shadow form, SY, and a great usage of PvE skills. But the mesmer has CoP, VoR, even better usage of PvE skills, and many gimmicky fun builds.
In terms of general usefulness to the team, farming, running, and fun, what would you recommend me?

Cookies Loves You · Sep 02, 2008, 12:04 AM // 00:04

sins there needed everywhere mesmers are and they can solo, opposed to the few mesmers can solo with a cheap 55 build most of the time

Tyla · Sep 02, 2008, 12:05 AM // 00:05

In terms of usefulness, I'd go with the Assassin. Reason? Moebius / Death Blossom owns face.

Any profession can run CoP. If you like the shutdown style of the Mesmer though, go with that though.

faraaz · Sep 02, 2008, 03:48 AM // 03:48

I say Assassin...I have both a Mesmer and a Sin, and between the two, my Sin gets way more play time than the Mesmer, although both of them are leet pwnz0r.

wetsparks · Sep 02, 2008, 04:13 AM // 04:13

since you are used to owning pve with your paragon I'm sure you could easily make the switch to mesmer which owns pve also. domination magic and interrupts and casters will tremble in fear when they see you coming. your used to high armor with a paragon and with assassin's being front line and low armor you might have some trouble, and if your combo gets interrupted your screwed.

JDRyder · Sep 02, 2008, 05:06 AM // 05:06

I say mesmer, they are more fun to play imo and VoR+backfire builds > pve atm

I dont like playing sin any more, after you play it for a few mins it gets old hitting c,1,2,3,4,3,4,3,4,3,4,c,1,2,3,4,3,4,3,4,3,4 etc

ZeAliX · Sep 02, 2008, 06:38 AM // 06:38

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Originally Posted by JDRyder

I say mesmer, they are more fun to play imo and VoR+backfire builds > pve atm

I dont like playing sin any more, after you play it for a few mins it gets old hitting c,1,2,3,4,3,4,3,4,3,4,c,1,2,3,4,3,4,3,4,3,4 etc

Maybe try another build? And besides, aren't most build constructed like that? that you should press buttons to use skills?

Anyway.. to the topic, I got sin as main and decided to roll mesmer as my secondary, but after playing a while with my mesmer I didn't find it fun at all because of the lack of dmg (bet I gonna be flamed for this one, but seriously..) and the problem with "tanking" or trying to bodyblock (to make any killing faster) with your mesmer. Anyway, you should be able to decide quite easily if you just play em equally for a while

troyismyname · Sep 02, 2008, 06:44 AM // 06:44

Try each for yourself. Decide which one you like.

Washi · Sep 02, 2008, 06:44 AM // 06:44

Depends what you wanna do. If you want to farm, go Assassin. If you want to play the game go Mesmer.

@ZeAliX.... lack of dmg? Maybe you need to change the build? Besides you need to change your mindset, tank&spank doesnt make killing faster, it slows it down. To sum it up, you are doing it wrong.

-Lotus- · Sep 02, 2008, 07:29 AM // 07:29

Assassin. there is almost no benifit to a mesmer primary in PvE. anything a mesmer can do well is either useless (in PvE) or a N/Me can do it better.

sad but true... they should really buff fast casting.

upier · Sep 02, 2008, 07:40 AM // 07:40

The assassin does everything the mesmer does and does it better - but I love the mesmer more.
So I'll be playing the mesmer.

Moloch Vein · Sep 02, 2008, 07:59 AM // 07:59

Agree with all/most of the above.

You want a pve hexer, you roll a necro.

Actually, roll a necro.

Cebe · Sep 02, 2008, 08:02 AM // 08:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by upier

The assassin does everything the mesmer does and does it better - but I love the mesmer more.
So I'll be playing the mesmer.

I'm signing this.

For aesthetics, Mesmer wins hands down.

The Moebius Blossom Assassin builds are formidable and high-damage in PvE, but frankly, after I ran it two or three times it got so boring and samey.

At the end of the day - it's not anyone's decision but your own...

ALF71BE · Sep 02, 2008, 08:06 AM // 08:06

Mesmers have cool armor, sins have cool damage...

I'd go for the mesmer based on that.

Avarre · Sep 02, 2008, 08:54 AM // 08:54

Mes for style.
Sin for more viability.

In the end neither choice is going to stop you from finishing PvE (unless you intend to rely on PUGs) so go with what suits your playstyle and seems cooler. If you do intend to rely on PUGs, Sin might be the better choice.

Give both a try, see what fits better and is more fun.

Xx Citrus Spike Xx · Sep 02, 2008, 09:08 AM // 09:08

Go mesmer, They make hardmode easy. Plus at the mo , everyone and their dog is either a sin or ranger, plus their is a lack of mesmers in the game, but like a few peeps have said already, the choice is yours.

Lishy · Sep 02, 2008, 09:26 AM // 09:26

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Originally Posted by troyismyname

Try each for yourself. Decide which one you like.

I already did. This is about maining.
And I am thinking of taking Assassin for SY onomnomnom.
What advantages do they have over a a mesmer?

Moloch Vein · Sep 02, 2008, 09:48 AM // 09:48

They can do more damage, they have better energy management, they have better armor, they can farm better, but everyone will think you're a retard.

Cathode_Reborn · Sep 02, 2008, 10:00 AM // 10:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kain Fz

I already did. This is about maining.
And I am thinking of taking Assassin for SY onomnomnom.
What advantages do they have over a a mesmer?

A mesmer without PvE skills can't really aggressively attack and do damage - most of their skills are conditional, or do damage over time. As a Domination mesmer, you'll often find yourself waiting for your enemy to do somethin in order for you to do damage. Besides Clumsiness/Wandering Eye, Illusion magic is very weak in PvE.

One is a caster based on shutdown. The other is a phys class who's role is pure damage. If you make a mes, be prepared to get some PvE skills you wanna dish out more unconditional damage.

Sins have the highest DPS out of all classes in the game (talkin PvE of course). They don't need PvE skills to do that. Using PvE skills only makes them even better. Combined with Asuran Scan, an MS/DB Sin can do ridiculous amounts of damage.

Now that I've brought up MS/DB, keep this in mind: If you're doing general PvE and you always wanna run what's most effective, you'll have pretty much no variety in builds since you'll find yourself running a typical MS/DB bar most of the time. For some it can be dull, but others enjoy the high damage they do.

Zahr Dalsk · Sep 02, 2008, 01:30 PM // 13:30

Assassin. More fun, much more powerful. Everything dies, quickly.